Exc condition, appears unfired. I found that mis fires and hang fires happened all the time. I have guns I bought from them as long ago as 2001, and they are all beautiful. SOLD 21478. There is some variability between brands of caps as well as manufacture of nipples. Blued finish, plain walnut grips. Web1858 Remington, Richards Mason & Open Top Conversion Manual. 5.5" barrel in .45 Colt. Customer Service. I bought a pietta model 1858 used and still havent fired it yet. stan wayback WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. Can anyone tell me a good load to start? This was sold and moved to Marietta, OH., and then, in around 1973, was sold to Navy Arms. Fits .44 and .36 7.25 ea + 2.75 shipping via USPS 1 ea. The 2nd ASM is a Colt SAA clone, the EMF "Hartford" model. However, I am 99% sure this is an Armi San Marco because my Armi San Marco cylinders cycle, time and lock perfectly in this pistol and The 1858 is the modern name for the Remington New Model Army/Navy revolvers, which were introduced circa 1863. A recruit, playing (Hopefullly with an UN-Loaded revolver!) Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This was very helpful, Im thinking about buying one of these pistols and this gave a lot of information about the pistol and the of it. Some folks claim doing so helps prevent chain fires, or all the cylinders going off at once. JavaScript is disabled. Im 66 years old and I have been wanting to get a 1858black powder for a while now but because I live in Illinois I cant get no one to order me one . I load as follows: But Civil War rifled muskets were lethal out to 300, so I have to question such a claim. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. LaHood was put down by the miner the Preacher had been helping using a buffalo gun at about 5 yards. Same thing with the barrels. 1860 Henry Manual. A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years back for a Christmas gift for his son. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. One was an early 50s bolt-action Savage Sporter in .25-20, which would do everything at 125 yards you could reasonably expect from a good .22 at 50. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. The rifle is the best looking gun in my collection, even better than my Henry. If you slip when cocking the hammer you can set a cap off. I also don't hestate to loan it to others. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. He took the gun back. Come join the discussion about hunting, fishing, survival, archery gunsmithing, optics, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Watch Cabelas.com or Cabelas stores ( if you have one close to you) Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping. converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination The Colt uses a "rampant" pony where the ASM is a pony just standing. If you do this you dont need a wad. Me too. Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . Easier to load and clean. So feel free to experiment. ). True for the 1873 and any other revolver deaigned to fire cartridges. Gauge: 44 percussion. Personally, I think hes nutso! The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. Bullshit!!! A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years back for a Christmas gift for his son. Oh MY when I fired the first revlver chamber flash fired the shotgun too, with a full ounce of buckshot. Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO. Are the parts hand made/fitted, or is the manufacture generic these days? PS: if you want to do more target shooting, but find yourself having to sell your wife, EAA (European/American Arms (Germany) makes some beautiful peacemakers replicas in everything from 44 mag to 22 LR (the latter comes with a second cylinder for the robust little 22 magnum). Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. These two revolvers just feel better ergonomically than either the Uberti .357's or the USFA .38 Special revolvers I have. It was a good gun but it went down the road in a swap as I don't care for the grip frame on the Remingtons. I am a bit of a traditionalist so I have 50-50 lard-beeswax that I put on cylinder after loading; cleaning is easy with hot water and Ballistol. You could become the next Farinelliif youre lucky. .44 Cal percussion. THE NICKLE PLATED FINISH IS GENERALLY EXCELLENT WITH A SPOT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GRIP STRAP SHOWING DISCOLORATION. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. Replica Arms was the first importer for ASM revolvers, the first being the 1847 Walker. ASM was so bad, even ASM parts seldom fit. She just a rolls out inna ya hand! THE BLUING ON THE OCTAGONAL BARREL SHOWS FRECKLING ALONG WITH LIGHT MUZZLE WEAR. I like to put some Bore Butter into the mouth of each cylinder on top of each ball. I got them from EMF. I know! Actually it was because of the pony on the grips AND the name, Colt won the lawsuit. Thanks. Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. It was so bad, I did something I have never done before, or sinse; I had an action job done. BORE IS GOOD 44 Caliber; 80% blue, good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. The Kirst conversion is named after probably the most famous cinematic example of the 1858 Remington rapid cylinder change, the final gunfight from Clint Eastwoods Pale Rider. The Colts often did have short safety pins at the back of the cylinder which could be engaged with the notch in the hammer nose, to accomplish exactly the same thing however. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers.Replica Arms of El Paso, TX was started by L.F. Allen. The .44 Remmington is a very strong gun. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Mmmmmmlightly-grilled, corn-fed Bambis mother backstrap.mmmmmmm. -drop safety-Hammer - Z52747, Lussignoli Renzo W. Moore/ London Reproduction - C53214, A. Uberti & C. Mod.1875 Army View Item in Catalog Lot #242 (Sale Order: 241 of 708) Sold for: $120.00 to F****b "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium THE BORE IS MIRROR .45 Colt; 98% blue, mint bore, near mint grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUTION OF A COLT 1871 OPEN TOP REVOLVER IN NEAR NEW CONDITION. Howell Conversions - GATED 1858 Remington Pietta .45 LC. BORE IS IN FAIR CONDITION. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. Not to put too fine a point on an excellent review but the Preacher killed Marshal Stockburn at the end. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52776. The problem doing that is the bolt finger like the 1st gens was really sharp and the cams on the hammers were soft. Frankly, I like the 45LC version better. Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. the 1858 is Lee van Cleefs gun in Good, bad and the ugly. Fits .44 and .36 7.25 ea + 2.75 shipping via USPS 1 ea. .44 Cal percussion. And be sure to get the correct version of conversion. This may provoke howls of outrage, but whitetails with a scoped .243 or .308 is not hunting. Many find that the higher loads are less accurate. That's your build date. My First Colt Style Gun, and my Last Colt style gun! I took to to a gunshop that has a lot of cowboy guns. It has never been fired, came in the original box with the original booklet, and is in excellent condition. Visit Our Site and Get Your Favorite Actors or Actresses Outfits now at the best prices. 1883 Burgess Manual. In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why it broke due to stress risers from the poorly finished part). To be smooth like a real Winchester. I shot it again in the side and it stop rolling around. Youll love it! Some, like Traditions would rather just to volume and dont seem to be very demanding of quality. One, an 1851 clone was built of the same parts produced by Uberti when they built the Colt "2nd Gen" percussion revolvers. Red Coats Get Run Off. THE BLUING IS NEAR FLAWLESS. Original blued finish, case colored frame, brass trigger guard and backstrap. Model: 1858. I dont use grease on the cylinder. I haven't had a lick of trouble out of it, other than losing the ejector housing screw. It was like 1-2 years before they went out of businnes. I am no authority, but I believe I know the law on this subject. Remington. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. 1873 Rifle Manual. The ASM firing pin holes in the recoil shields weren't hardened so they tend to develop a dimple that the primer flows in to binding the cylinder. Youve done a real service to fellow shooters there. What is really going on is that the low velocity sabot or conicals drop quite a bit, and holdovers are extreme. Or something like that. Fits .44 and .36 7.25 ea + 2.75 shipping via USPS 1 ea. Ive been pretty satisfied with Clean Shot sub, and it smokes a lot less and produces significantly less fouling. Thanks for giving some info on the handgun side of the black powder world. I have a LeMat replica, fine in every way except the rammer being a piss poor design, and the two-mode hammer not working well in shotgun position. Thanks in advance. Its parts will interchange with all 3 of my Colt 2nd Gen 1851, except the barrel (the pins at the front of the frame are placed differently). The US Government needed as many revolvers as it could get. They were based primarily on the early 1st. But on my wish-they-would-make list a 5-shot .50 Old Army designed for sabot bullets and 50-grain Pydrodex pellets. It is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship and great fun to shoot. The bad guy carries a Peacemaker (a bit earlier than its actual appearance, but what the hell, it aint a documentary) (Said to have claimed his last victem by shooting him twice, skinning him and nailing his hid on the livery stable door! Very good bore and chambers, with light corrosion present. My days of reloading by the thousands are past, so a pair of these are a real find at less then $300 bucks. STAINLESS FINISH SHOWS LIGHT HANDLING WEAR. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Bore in very good condition with surface corrosion, however the barrel is bulged slightly. I still shot it without the ejector, and got pretty good at ejecting shells with a nail on a leather thong. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. I shoot both of them and they are a hoot. Type: Revolver. The nature of the weapon makes no difference; one is just as deadly, and in the same way as the other. I called VTI. WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver. But to me, it just seems that a black powder gun pushing a round ball does not have the ballistics to routinely be lethal on a whitetail deer. It would sure be cool to see a review of the Colt competitors

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