Thanks to all who have signed. Cue points, Kirby adds, are a bigger problem at Eurosport than with other networks, with producers calling for radio silence across the Eurosports various nationalbroadcasts to assist with the editing process. It is guys sitting on a motorbike who pull up alongside a cyclist and say 'how are you doing?'. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. You get the mood of the crowd, and of the press. That doesnt portend his job has not become a whole lot harder. One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. Various types of distractions are always ready for a commentator. They only received compensation a couple of years later. and apologises to those who don't. 00:04:00, 29/05/2020 at 08:52 Related And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. Fantasy Cycling: game [at] road.cc Kittel did win stage four, but then Cavendish beat him again on stage six. When all the commentators from different nationalities are inside the same studio room, it is no longer the same as before, remarks Kirby, in a monotonous tone. His knowledge of most non-english speaking riders can be written on the back of a postage stamp, with the exception of 'famous' foreigners like the Schlecks, Dertie Cont, Cancellera and after this spring Gilbert. You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. Yates ended up going out the back of the peloton, losing 1.22. I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. Twaddle. From dealing with the never-ending frenzy of action, and incessant radio announcements, to having to tackle the director. I think as well that audiences will be sympathetic, so even if they know were not there, we will be upfront and honest about it. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. What is his cycling background ? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Thats when it down to you and not the riders.. I think there seems to be a bad feeling against cyclists and its really strange because theyre only people, he continued. Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. Its quite nice at the Tour de France that we have a roadbook and a history book of everything were going through. Kittel is still the fastest guy out there, but when he turns on the taps there is going to be a point when his maximum capacity starts to diminish. Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo and more Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo, Tortec and more Vitus launch three bikes for cyclo-cross season. After my tweet he at least toned that down. So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. The concern of course is how much is this going to take out of him before he begins preparations for the Olympic Games next month? if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. And its only the past year that we even get to see more than the Tour de France. As for the Sky Team Fans member - you wouldnt actually be Mr Kirby would you ???? It just stays online forever. To show no fear is the best skill of all. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. 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Plus the the week's top tech news, in: Flying Tom Pidcock wins Strade Bianche, in: Cyclists call on council to reconsider unsafe diversion, in: Call for Scottish safety portal that would "deliver justice", in: Campaigners: Remove pedestrian vs cyclist conflict, in: Highway Code changes haven't helped cyclists, Near Miss of the Day 853: Driver of lorry urging cyclists to Please take extra care near this vehicle fined for close pass (includes swearing), Continental unveils the "strongest" and "fastest" ever Grand Prix 5000 tyre models, Brompton boss frustrated to be fighting "war of attrition" against rip-off rivals, Remove conflict between cyclists and pedestrians, urge campaigners in wake of manslaughter case, Have bike tech wars turned cycling into Formula 1? I speak no language other than English. They support his knowledge and enthusiasm behind the mic, even after so many years. How can someone who watches so much cycling know so little? Can you at least extend our premium subscriptions so we can play all races, until you fix the issue? Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. Mark thought it was congratulations, but it was Kittel hitting him on the back in frustration. For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? He came off the corner leading, it was a right hand to the finish in Villars-les-Dombes. There are no points for each turn. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. His Grand National, Murray Walker shouting in the last 2 kilometres really is unbelievable. You also have picture breakdowns, sometimes audio breakdowns so weve got all that going on and we havent even got on to the racing yet!. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. What a load of rubbish - Team Sky Fan !! A close study of the final 20 kilometres follows, picking out key hazardslike pinch points, street furniture and likely attack points, before the repeating the study in the car alongside King Kelly as the pair make their way to the commentary point at the stage finish. I can walk or drive the technical approach to the finish, which is gold. Riders who perhaps finished tenth on a day will be livid that we didnt eulogise about them, but Im sorry, I was talking about the person who finished first. For example, I know that Jakob Fuglsangs last name means bird song, which is a nice little thing. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet". This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. The breaks going to go up the road, theyre going to be allowed anything up to 15 minutes of an advantage and everyone else is just having a chat including us., All the other commentators from all the other nations and all their information are in the same room, so you often get people saying: Have you heard this?, with loads of things to share. It doesnt take much accomplishment to understand what Kirby is referring to. There is no discussion or debate, just chatter, articles, and just that. He said from the rider's perspective, motorbikes get far too close to the race. American racers headed to Italy chime in. Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras. Driver escapes punishment for alleged hit-and-run on cyclist, as victim blasts police inaction and barriers to justice. Kirby has the benefit of what he calls the ultimate pass the presence of his legendary co-commentator when it comes to cutting through the crowds and police lines. Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. He is now only four short. If it goes on for two or three years, then people will notice because the freshness of what is in our heads will ebb. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. He has been commentating on the Tour de France since 2009, and his deep knowledge of the race and the riders makes him one of the most respected commentators in the sport. The moment you have spoken a word, it is out there on tape and on every news website, forum, and who knows what. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. you can't have it on while doing other things and then return to the screen when it gets interesting because by the time Kirby has noticed many minutes will have passed. You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. My primary issue with Carlton Kirby is that he doesn't commentate on what is happening (he rambles whatever is inside his head). I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. I don't know the guy but I wish in netherlands we would do it with mart smeets, danny nelissen and herbert dijkstra, who are complete idiots. Win! We have to get him off eurosport. pic.twitter.com/TkvUUUeBXs. Riders have lost their ability to race, says LeMond, Nacer Bouhanni handed penalty, fined for shove. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. Also, Kirby criticises riders in almost every race. #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. He was hinting today that he would be commentating on Paris-Roubaix (just after he said that Froome was 'over-raced' this year), so I'd be grateful if as many people as possible could comment/vote before it is too late: Mmmmm, unfortunately, the suggested replacement is just as clueless, just quieter. You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. Before Kirby hits the airwaves, he touchesbase with Eurosport HQ in Paris,and then its time to take to the microphone. Even once the race itself is over, and the post-analysis is done, theres a second race to get away from the finish line. Kittel is not a broken man, but his supremacy has tumbled because Mark Cavendish has only gone and won four stages here. His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled togethera few hundred quidoff the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought hisfirst road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadlypinched a few years later. It means sometimes were not actually commentating from the finish line because the Tour de France is so huge theres about 8,000 people attached to the Tour. Harmon LOVES cycling, cycling history, and even riders who don't speak English. I am having this problem too. Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. I talk about the same stuff, except Im making it up. Mark Cavendish crossed the line first, and said Kittel came up to slap him in the back. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc We usually have to drive to the finish line, which is where the commentary positions normally are theyre like double-decker coaches all lined up there, Kirby sayd. join Outside+. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week, Thomas De Gendt bosses Volta a Catalunya opener and solos into 3-minute overall lead. Fully agree Kirby is the most irritable commentator ever. To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. Theres an awful lot of distractions to keep on top of, so if you happen to be looking at your notes when somebody has a moment and you dont see it, its not your fault., Kirby laughs. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. You only need to listen to him to get that he has no time for Johnny Foreigner. To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. The walls do move when they pile in too. It is not so bad if they are in front because the rider can tell the motorbike to go away, but if it is trailing the rider and the rider comes off, there is always the possibility of impact. Hes done it four times, and I think he might want to do it again on the Champs-lyses. Went for a bike ride earlier today. I've been told to stop having a go at the motorcycles, but it is purely from a safety aspect and sadly this poor guy, who was very a vibrant talent at the age of only 25, has lost his life. Hosted by Duncan Steer. Or at least diminished. Riders having to get close to a motorbike just to take a corner. and clearly was totally clueless. Please tell your friends: Ive read so many negative comments about Kirby that unlike most online petitions this one could work. Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses the collision between Peter Sagan and Mark Cavendish that ended the Tour de France for both men. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. Once its out there youre done, so youll just have to forgive me if I make the odd gaffe. (@StasaZlatanovic) March 24, 2019. That is common in France and Belgium with a dedicated roving reporter from the race roving all over the peloton and having a chat. There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. You sit there, its often quite quiet, and you get brought an exotic meal like a guacamole sandwich. There must be so many ex-pro riders out there who would give valuable commentary and insight into the races. Would like to cancel eurosport but it's the only way to watch the classics (legitimately at least). It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. Simon Clarke, who should have won the 2016 Milan-San Remo is just one in a long, long line of things he invents from nowhere and then portrays as facts, banging on about them throughout a season. I'm not sure if it was security, medical or a photographer who hit him, but essentially there was braking with four riders on the ground and the bike flipped before landing on the riders. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. Partly, of course, that's his job - but if you give it out, you have to take it. He believes. 14 Aug 2020. When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. pic.twitter.com/fFcEf0AgHK, Volta a Catalunya (@VoltaCatalunya) March 25, 2019. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. Theyd often stop too Euskaltel-Euskadi were one of the most common for that, theyd roll to the front, let everyone know it wasnt an attack and then ride up the road to briefly chat to family! Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? Baseless. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVam's overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. Terms and conditions of use. You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. ), there is a thread in the Eurosport 'comments and suggestions' forum requesting that he be removed from the roster. The demands of media and multimedia these days make it more of a serious problem. Marcel Kittel gesticulates as Mark Cavendish wins stage 14 of the Tour de France ahead of Peter Sagan, Stage six finish: Cavendish edges Kittel again in thrilling finale, WATCH: Moment Cavendish finds out he has won. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. Antoine Demoitie tragically died after being hit by a motorbike. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! Essentially, there needs to be some sort of schooling or protocol coming from the International Cycling Union that has a proficiency test for these guys. Talk about what you know. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. Continuing our discussion of 2020's cancelled/postponed races continues, Eurosport bon viveur Carlton Kirby discusses why riding up Swiss mountains is easier than riding up French mountains; villages accessible only by ladder; the world's highest lighthouse; 70s balladeer Gilbert O'Sullivan; human . e-bikes are very much the SUVs of the car world with every manufacturer seemingly keen to add at least one to their range to not miss out. We will never sell your data and you'll only get messages from us and our partners whose products and services we think you'll enjoy. This is the video I showed Trinity School in Lewisham this morning. Its a case of trying to keep everybody amused. Youre at the finish line, essentially watching the TV albeit with extra screens.. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. A piece of the petition has gained over 542 signatures demanding the removal of Carlton Kirby from Eurosports, citing Unnecessary Screaming, Terrible Jokes as one of the biggest downsides. I've just discovered, after following a tweet that Orla Chennaoui had re-tweeted, that the esteemed Mr Kirby has blocked me on Twitter. VN:What do you talk about differently when youre in the studio? He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. It is crazy. Over 3,200 worth of amazing prizes from Pacenti Cycle Design and Saint Piran, including some stunning carbon wheels! He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? He spoils everyones enjoyment of the race with his silly so called jokes and rubbish talk. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. If you're after one, guess that does makethe two grand plus 40 quid a month price tag seem a little fairer A mother from London has launched a petition calling for a second coroner's inquest into the death of her daughter, who passed away at nine years of age in what was originally believed to be an asthma-related case. How do you call one of the biggest sporting events on the planet? Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia.

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