There are now lots of middle-men involved in the production of a golf clubbelieve it or not there might be over 75 people touching a design before it hits the shelves. United States [emailprotected] The fakes have very sharp lines, and you can see they aren't sandblasted in the recessed areas (at least not the same). Many of the shafts will feel flimsy or not as stiff as the flex stated on the shaft. Also wondering if anyone knows about this brand being legit most of the time or not. Has anyone heard or dealt with mygolfwholesale out of Chicago? Thanks for the heads up, are there any pictures of the back? This is a very poor quality counterfeit. I ordered a Scotty Cameron Putter. Normally, I can buy gift cards for 10% to 15% off. This counterfeit grip was a design used on TaylorMade Irons from several years earlier. Very bad ones at that. This was obviously a huge relief, so my advice to anyone who has been stung would be to speak to their bank immediately. So I repeat my accusation. Go look right now. And why is it unbeatable? Name Server: If you buy from the right guy these clubs are coming direct from the factory. The internet is a jungle where thieves and counterfeiters hide and thrive. Additionally, the backside of the club must be 24k gold plated; the colour of gold should not be so dark. Now, it could be possible that this one was leftover stock, and the 4 iron was mixed from another set the seller does not have many iron sets for sale, primarily hybrids and drivers, from mizuno and cobra brands, along with golf accessories I know I could check the serial with Mizuno (and will, come monday), but Ive also heard some fakes put serials on the clubs from genuine items any suggestions? http://www.golfonlinedeal.com/392-Ping-Rapture-V2-Irons.html, http://www.bestwebshop.co.uk/ping-rapture-v2-irons-p-244:84f72ca761dab049f016fe8313551b65.html, http://www.gfseller.com/Ping-Rapture-V2-Green-DotIrons-3-9PS-1146.html. If you are to buy clones the only 2 companies I would deal with are Diamondtour.com & PinemeadowGolf.com. Cheers, I found a summary by someone of what the key attributes of the fakes are and the clubs I got fit these to a T. The quality is way below that of the real irons, there is no comparison. So you think the number is higher and actually 65-70%? Callaway RazrX iron set for $369!! The prices were in the too good to be true range, but I can tell you that I had them all checked out and am 99.999% sure they are the real deal, as was the pro that looked at them. As a GolfWRX reader, you know how much a custom fit club can work for you over something bought off the shelf. All vely, vely cheap. I also learned that Mizuno did not care enough about me to let me know if my actions helped them out in the fight for counterfeit clubs. Just wanted ur opinion if these are safe or stay away from them. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mens-Golf-head-MIURA-Forged-Golf-wedges-head-52-56-60-wedges-clubs-head-/332198470125?hash=item4d589261ed:g:gVcAAOSwuLZY5qaN, 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, Arnold Palmer Invitational 2023 (*** NO LIV DISCUSSIONS/REFERENCES ***), 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. Total difference in performance. Please dont worry about the quality, because our clubs are made with the same technology and mould. * 6 other web sites are hosted on this server. Their price for siem clubs seemed very low. Instead of it costing me the $465 I spent on the real one, it cost me a further $250 on the fake so $715 all up for the driver. I hope you didnt get ripped off because I just ordered a set of irons myself! Registrant Phone Ext. The club are real and they have the original cobra wrapping.. i took a chance and its paid off..and save 350$ on the price i would paid in canada. Admin FAX Ext. Like someone above commented, our sweet spot is getting closeouts, overstocks, and liquidation goods that we can sell at significant discounts. I am very cynical, but also kinda cheap. and fast shipping. So that means if they sell cheaper, they are not allowed to show the price until you put the item in your shopping cart. Well there are many reasons why this became such a popular profession and one worth serious jail time and heavy fines. Hi All, great discussion. The other is a cheap imitation which hits the ball considerably less distance. City : Kettering The first thing you will notice about a fake club is the quality doesnt compare to the real deal. There are several sites that all look similar, one umbrella company pulling the wool over our eyes. PO Box 80 Their price on a R1 is about $75.00 lower than the best price on Ebay. I get sale flyers from reputable dealers like TGW & Edwin Watts, etc. Another way that could help everyone to see where the goods come from,before place your order just ask a question to the seller if could be possible have the goods posted by EMS or check your self at their websites at the voice shipping and if is positive that means come from china!!!! The headcovers were very obvious. how about http://www.golfdiscounting.com/? can anyone tell me if -discountgolfworld.com- is a legit site selling authentic clubs? What do you know about this site: http://www.drgolfstore.com/, with the price tey post, it smell fake if you paid with paypal open a dispute and send a note or speak with the store to cancel your transaction..and dont accept partial refund , take full refund and report them to callaway golf, the price should be around 3 time that amount for real one. You cannot paste images directly. Read through some of the FAQs for example: Q. This has been an ever increasing thing these days. I have never bought from themany of you guys on here used them? very soft feel the few times i did hit it. Dont be an idiot. Thanks Dan, I will wait to see how they are then contacy Callaway and try the same approach with Topmallgolf as i will want to get some monies back if they are not real genuine clubs. of course they are fake! Do the right thing got to your local retailers, make comparisons, try out different models and be assured what you decide to buy will be the real deal. Here is the final giveaway. Province/State : WG Not titanium either like it is suppose to be. Im not sure that it follows that if a seller doesnt have an account with a major manufacturer that they must sell fakes talk about a stretch in logic! Price: $175.00. its either real or a really good fake. No one in the building has heard of such company.Be ware! Bill Street1: Xiamen I politely replied staing that i believe these are originals, they then replied pointing out that the 9.5 degree loft i was offering wasnt actually available only a 9 and 10.5 are! I think I just stumbled on another sham site. I will put a 5 stars grade to Empire Golf, Global Golf and GolfEntail, all of which I had past dealings with them. Admin FAX: +86.05946277277 FAKES!. Rockbottom has previously said it does not receive its golf clubs through the authorised channels provided by the big brands like Titleist, Callaway, Taylormade, Mizuno, Ping and Cobra. taylormade tp. bought several club and never disapointed. So ask yourself where on Earth does it get it golf clubs from? An example: http://www.scamadviser.com/. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade), BGT Stability tour black with Scotty Cameron pistolini grip. Does this mean the clubs are bogus???? DONT SEARCH THE INTERNET FOR CHEAP PRICE GOLF CLUB! Ali Baa has numerous Miura wedges and iron sets at cheapo prices, really cheap. I am all for saving money. they are OEM actually I have a fake club sitting right here next to the computer desk that i bought a month ago. fax: Billing Contact Information : Has anyone heard of this website ? Since then I have been doing some research, I dont have the club so nothing concrete but I fear a counterfeit is on the way. The finish on this one is clearly different, and you can see the lines from the milling which do not appear on a genuine version. Odyssey Hi does anyone know about http://www.cheapgolf4u.com? Ask yourself, if the clubs do not come through the proper channels, then where on Earth do they get them from? Miura. Hey i just bought a set a Vega irons off ebay for $700, just wondering if thats sounds to good, i think retail is like 1200. Miura is a relatively small forge in Japan, founded by Katsuhiro Miura. GlobalGolf seems to be legit as well, but I have only ever purchased 2 clubs from them. Registrant FAX Ext. chuanglianwangluokeji Has anyone bought clubs on the website economygolfsale.com? But the club manufacturers are not in a good spot. I have found that they have the cheapest clubs on the net vs any other legit online store, with their prices not being stupid cheap where alarm bells start ringing. The complete Jaffick set reminds me of Ping's G-range with a hint of TaylorMade mixed in. Select Grip: Golf Pride Tour Wrap Counterfeit Ping G15 Graphite Shaft. Province: Fujian I should receive the clubs in a few days. Prices look to good to be true and I know what that usually means! Super street So much to my suprise I havnt bought a single item from this site and I would advise staying the hell away from them. My friend really upset and cant afford with new set what he look for. On the rear page I see Ping G15 irons, Burner Superfast Driver/Fairway Woods/Irons at prices lower than normal prices. I had good replies to my questions when I asked them about fakes (and other things mentioned in this article) and they have over 200,000 transactions with 99.8% rating. Do not return them until you have a full refund plus postage and make this clear to the seller, even if he does not reply. Miura (13) Mizuno (241) Nickent Golf (0) Nike (45) Odyssey (15) Ping (314) PRGR (267) Roddio (29) RAM (0) Royal Collection (5) S - Z; . Too risky that the head is off or shafts, loft are wrong. There ARE reputable eBay sellers though and my recent experience buying a set of full custom Irons through a detailed fitting questionnaire was Best in class, while I did save hundreds. Of course fakegolfclubs.com will have the cheapest golf clubs in the world. Shame on them! A clubmaker friend had a customer come in with some Mizuno iron heads, saying he got them from a source in Japan. I made the mistake of purchasing a set of Callaway X-22 irons from golfstoreshop.com. Registrant Organization: Chen Sun Must be a very big price mark-up on clubs if you can buy a counterfeit for 300 % cheaper. So if they do not get their golf clubs through the proper channels provided by the manufacturers, where on Earth do they get them from? I got them for $168.50 with free shipping from our oversea office.It was a quick decision as I was really just browsing with no intentions of buying until I spotted this auction in the last minute with a low bid. They are made with materials that cause the club(s) to be much heavier (or sometimes lighter) than the original, and it is not uncommon to lose at least 1 club of distance. You have not answered my question and i have found the services of a very poor standard . Cleveland 588 64 Matrix Program 130 S I dont believe that price is so low and DONT ORDER. We are here to help educate and empower golfers. you have very little protection on these international transactions. When can you find the best deals in golf equipment? and is also protected by China and its international copyright laws. Notice the word China! So those of you worried that you may get ripped off by one of these sites need to take a step back and ask yourself, do I really need the name brand if I can only afford to pay the $500 these sites are charging and if so you must realize you usually get what you pay for so. Callaway tcalled today and told me that the club I received was a one piece metal head which should not be that way if it were a real FT-IZ driver. Further to my original post re http://www.golfleading.com and my dispute via Paypal. Bill Phone Ext. Hi, just found this site and it is very informative. Another tip is check out their security certificate logo at the bottom of the page. Thats why we could sell them at such favorable price. 2nd Swing is actually now an authorized US Miura dealer/distributor so you can bet theres no funny stuff with them. I received the woods from China on 12/31/09 and due to some somewhat favorable weather was able to try them out on 01/01/10. 4 to AW Steel Regular Shaft at 899. And, Im getting it with these clubs. So they have totally misrepresented themselves when they registered their domain. I am looking at a sale catalog from Edwin Watts, certainly one of the most highly regarded golf retailers ever. Rockbottom golf is offering Callaway X Forged 2009s for $399. I have purchased equipment from EBay, Hurricane Golf, TGW, Golfio and Rock Bottom Golf. So if it doesnt have an American serial number, that doesnt make it fake. The other part of playing a blade is getting tremendous feedback . And despite traditional sounding names to America, their spelling and grammar seems like it might be someone whose primary language is not English but is writing in English, kind of like those spam emails you get telling you that you inherited a million dollars, so just contact Honorable Barrister Jonathon Dawes or whomever. Id like to check them out. Happy golfing . Try to get THAT fixed! If you have already paid for clubs how do you get a refund I have learned my lesson about buying cheap clubs. Or maybe youd like me to send it in yuan instead of Sterling? Since 2005 I have only seen one other set available. Can easily tell when the grooves have dirt/grass in them and need to be cleaned. The deals seem a little too good to be true? Were paying for sdvertising and PGA pros with all that club money!! I 19:45:04, if I wanted to check them in the brand site would i be able? Carlsbad, CA 92008 To close the loop on this, I emailed Miura with the links and research. Their rise to fame came with graphite shafts and oversized iron heads. Registrant Street3: Same story as mine. I have noticed that the soles of the heads do show marks (i.e. Can anyone help say if these are fake? Does anyone knowif greatgolfsales on Ebay is ligit or not? Anybody have information on this? Or am I just being paranoid now and should trust what the store sells?? thanks for this post. Almost all of the big chains have had to implement mandatory inspections of every club that comes through their shop because the quality of the counterfeits are getting so good. Thanks Dave, A lot of the companies that were offering fake clubs were advertising on Google Adwords. I would NOT buy anything from them. I have played Taylormade all my life and should have known better when I saw teh price. Admin Street3: Anyway this is not going away soon, and my message is to do your research before buying. Since then I always do research before buying. I have been dealing with Rockbottomgolf for years. They Are also authorized Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. This site has been mentioned in some of the comments above, but can anyone confirm that this is a genuine site and good to order from? How about knock offs? Or want the performance of a blade with the forgiveness of a cavity back? They obvsiouly only have only one ball tray or maybe, again, that is Chinese speak for ball trays and please inform me what greens fork balls are. Some guy in South Korea just became YOU! Me 09:58:34 RockBottomGolf.com is one of the largest Internet golf sites in the world specializing in closeout golf merchandise. And we know they are putting it to us when a new Driver comes out for $400.00 and then at the end of the season it is on the shelf for $200.00 you know they are still making a profit. Do you think these are also selling counterfeit products..? Dec. And some people will actually believe that. Address : 10821 S. Ridgeway My best friend travels their three to four times a year. No phone number so I emailed asking if their products are authentic. One of the questions I asked was where they get there golf clubs from. Fantatastic Website and great comments, the problem is that it seems no one actually can verify that the clubs are from a legititmate OEM or not or just a company that possibly produces some part of the end product and uses the certification for evil purposes, (Not at least until its too late and your money has left the account).Im a very careful buyer, probably too careful but I do have an eye for a bargain and it seems to me that if your careful then you may be lucky. Of course, it wouldn't make any difference how Miura golf clubs look if they didn't excel in the right hands on the course or at the range. Someone on a 20 handicap, no; someone on a 12 handicap, no; someone on a 4 handiap, no. R11 driver is currently 399.99 brand new, anything less is illegal. Or are they made from the Callaway or US golf brands factorys in China just to make them cheaper like most brands do these days for all different items? They are the best clubs of anyone on my team( im a varsity golfer in hs). ns2.cnolnic.com. That should be updated every day if they are legit, and it shows on both sites Tested 12-Sept. So I am not 100% sure. Paste as plain text instead, I 19:47:00, Sir,our clubs are not 100% original but would perform the same. They claim that they sell Authentic clubs but I want to know for sure. I compare the feel of a Miura to that of snapping a young tree branch and a Mizuno to that of hitting a marshmallow. I guarantee the golf clubs WILL be fake! If you can please send us your address we can send you a brown paper bag. I looked up the website credibility too and found it had a VERY POOR wot rating which is composed of trustworthiness and vendor credibility. I guess it's more than bleeding obvious they're fakes. But i can hit it quite far. ns2.ename.cn Rockbottom gets their inventory from pro shops, golf courses, and other types of retailers that are going out of business. After seeing the great deals they had, I got suspicious and brought the Scotty into the local pro shop. Have read reviews of this site and some seem to have had bad customer service. I bought a Ping G30 5-wood from Aliexpress for $75.00 US (normally sells for over $150.00) from this seller ALBTROSS GOLF CLUBS in mainland China. Me13:29:42 I thought I was dealing with an above board on-line company, but got the shaft. Secondly, and no less important to the cause of golf club counterfeiting is the fact that so many people now touch this product or design before it is completed. Cheap, cheap, cheap. Thanks, However They are both in California but have great ratings, 99.9 and 99.8. 5545 Fermi Court Anyone know how to get hold of a company with the web site wholesalegolfplace.com ? !check yourself and you will see!!!!! Also another website that looks alot like the Golf Clubs Off site is golfbigdiscount.com. I personally guarantee EVERYTHING we sell is 100% genuine and authentic. I received the message they are not fakes so again I asked them how they can sell ping online directly? I know these are older irons, so did Miura have a time when they did not stamp GENUINE on the necks? They say the clubs come from a OEM supplier. I recently ordered supposed Taylormade R11 Fairway Woods from OURDISCOUNTGOLF.COM. Has anyone bought clubs from easygolforder.com? They explained that they would refund my order themselves and take my dispute up with the Chinese vendor on my behalf. Gmail account for contact, not enough or to many digits in the phone number. does this website sell gunuine clubs, they say they are sent from the OEM factory. Online store selling Mizuno Mp58 clubs for less than $400 3-pw. However, my order is being tracked from Hong Kong and has been sent via DHL. I am still shooting in the 110 range same as my old Intech set. The Miura TC-201 is a "Tour Cavity" model sitting somewhere between a true muscle-back and full-fledged cavity-back iron. wl sale It is obvious that if a clubhead is enlarged and made of steel, its playing characteristics will be outside normal tolerances of club design. Exotics are the flagship of the range and are in play on the PGA Tour. Titleist serial numbers in the past were mostly etched into the metal itself. I just recently purchased a set of Miura Irons. Nice stie. We will also donate 5 percent of your purchase price to help clear the pollution in the skies of China. Hard to tell from the website itself, but the prices.no way. NS26.DOMAINCONTROL.COM, Hey Pat G. what do you say about http://www.mysurbuy.com. Is anyone has any info about this web site please let me know. Of course the set is over a year old. Has anybody had any kind of transaction with them. I actually called them regading the callaway wedge I bought after I read this article and the person who I was talking to assured me that they deal directly with manufacturers and they sent me the link http://www.callawaygolf.com/authorized-retailers/ and I see budgetgolf.com them in authorized retails list. They do not have any address on their website showning their physical location ? bingo! Bill Street2: Bill Name: Chen Sun The only loss you will suffer is you wont be able to wave that name brand club around for all to see. RockBottomGolf.com offers a wide variety of name brand golf merchandise including Callaway, Mizuno, Adams, Wilson, Taylor Made, Nike, Tommy Armour, Ogio and more. Many thanks. Ill save you the time. So many clubs these days have aggressive lines, visible weighting, and aggressive branding. There are also a lot of sites that focus completely on providing this kind of information about scams. Oh Billy Billy Billy. Foothills Golf Club is excited to announce the exceptional career opportunity of Accounting Assistant. Please advise, Has anyone bought clubs from this site? And not sure if its real paid $215 for it. Bogus address, city and zip. 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, Arnold Palmer Invitational 2023 (*** NO LIV DISCUSSIONS/REFERENCES ***), 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. they are counterfeit and fake and wont deliver all your order!! I have been in contact with a gentleman from online store called Golf Mart. New York, NY 10018 Has anyone bought clubs from this web sight? Needs reporting. Thanks. I have bought a number of clubs from various ebay sites and havent been ripped off yet. I dont have any experience with them personally but I wouldnt be afraid to try. Brand List . This was after golfwholesaleshop had assured me they were genuine.Steer clear. They have a web store and an ebay store that I know of. Forged irons have bag chatter because the metal is soft. Ive received very suspect emails, and when aked about the authenticity of their products theres no response from them.The product is coming from China as can be seen from the tracking info, hey at least their sending something!. The problem is most of us dont have the money to buy the best so we buy the crap in hopes it performs like the real deal. Started Tuesday at 05:32 AM, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. CObra S2 irons, brand new with the wrap on it, i ask for picture, and he was not able to provide them but he told me that the club where a late season return from Acushnet. http://www.hotgolfuk.com I was wondering whether this is a legit website or full of fakes. please help. You would think they would be smart enough to at least copy and paste an American-sounding response to your emails. Hey everyone, I just wanted to add another good way to identify these fake golf clubs on alot of these websites is to see if they offer lefthand not always but it works the majority of the time. And if you dont think these fakes are showing up in the big retail storesguess again. Why are left-handed options so limited? I kind of stumbled upon this post and saw you mentioned GolfEtail.com a few times so though I would chime in. Thank you, Is this site legit, can I trust them, because the sites I trust(http://www.onlinegolf.co.uk/ ) they dont sell Ping. Law enforcement will most likely lead to a deadend. Thanks for getting to me. Hi Nick. Not a problem Brain thanks for giving the update. The site is written in terrible English and when you Whois lookup the domain, it points to a chinese location Are your products are real? Started Tuesday at 05:32 AM, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. They seem like a legit operation. I cant tell particular differences between the club and the factory pictures. Another clue. (brand new wedges)used only the 55 in a 9 hole round last night felt great almost a i didnt swing hard enough sound coming from the iron but with great distance. Province: Zhejiang Next time you are in China please look us up. Higher end putters like the Scotty Cameron below are made of a softer metal and will have a differentfeel than the counterfeit. MyGolfSpy, Inc. All Rights Reserved. From my previous post, Im not noticing the crack noise any longer, but the irons still feel stiff on contact. If it seems like it might be coming from a questionable seller, or the price is too good to be true, could almost guarantee it's fake. The best remedy to deal with fake clubs, especially when steel heads are supplied when they should be of titanium, is to shorten the shafts immediately so that they fit into your dustbin easily. Like many, I was about to push the button and buy a set of rediculously low priced clubs on an online website that looks very good to the eye. Admin Name: Brandgolfclubs Sounds like they dont have there s**t together. Colors and fonts will be different just like on the irons and drivers above. Whats with this Suno discount wholesale golf store. I wouldnt buy irons, or driver if the web site smells funny (web-page errors, approximate English..), no customer service you can contact. I am sorry but I dont believe this practice is legal and the lawyers have worded the agreements so to be able to skirt the law. Louisville Golf is one of the rare companies remaining that still produces persimmon drivers and fairway woods. Recent article about the actual cost of maunfacturing drivers, iron, etc.

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