At distances of 50 or less, the Super has virtually the same muzzle velocity of the .357 Magnum. B. Gillett, 1911 Colt Pistols, Capt. The .38 Super was introduced in the 1911 handgun in 1929 to arm peace officers with a hard-hitting handgun that offered good penetration against the new breed of mechanized thug. The .38 Super varies in accuracy. Firing System: External Hammer Frame Material: Steel Magazine Type: Single Stack Magazine Barrel Configuration: Single Rifled Barrel: Yes Minimum Pull Length: 0 in. Though Clyde and Bonnie escaped the Sowers ambush by Dallas County authorities in November of 1933, Clyde ditched his shot up car near the Ft. Worth Pike and commandeered a less damaged car to make good their flight to freedom. Ironically, I do. Action works in both single and double action. Most were marked " For .38 Colt Special " which is nothing more than the S&W .38 Special but with a flat nose. While I have relegated most of my collection to the comfort of the safe, I loved the pistol and carried it for years. Home Ammunition Throwback Thursday: Does Anyone Still Use the .38 Super? Glad both calibers are being produced again in greater numbers. When you read the engraving it will bring a tear to your eyes. The conservative ranchers and almost everyone else in Texas loved Coke Stevenson and what he stood for. This Texas Ranger collector firearm features handsome 24-karat gold decorations, including the hammer, slide stop, safety lock, grip screws, barrel bushing and magazine catch. Both can be purchased through the Texas Ranger Museum Gift Shop. Perusing the museum, which is an absolute must for anyone living in Texas or simply traveling Interstate 35, I found one sole surviving 1860 Army full fluted cylinder Colt. Accuracy is pretty good. The Colt Walker was created in the mid-1840s in a collaboration between Texas Ranger Captain Samuel Hamilton Walker (1817-1847) and American firearms inventor Samuel Colt (1814-1862), building upon the earlier Colt Paterson design. It is my go to cartridge and has been for years. And it was so heavy that Colt said it would take a "Texan to shoot it.". It is also doubtful John Moses Browning expected that his most famous and enduring creation, the 1911, would be alive and kicking, with no signs of retiring, nearly 100 years after he finished the last of the Armys requested improvements. Those are Supers, and they were the better choice for a while. The Professional was developed to mate a full-size frame to a compact (4-inch) slide. America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter. By any standard, the caliber and the 1911 handgun are excellent defensive or tactical choices. 9mm, 45 acp and 40 s&w. The unfortunate rarity of any sort of bulk ammunition and the corresponding magazines makes it more of a niche type of weapon but they are worth the extra effort. The 1930 Sherman riot made Texas notorious for its racial animosity. Shop 38 super pistols online at Hinterland Outfitters from brands like Armscor, EAA, Colt, Dan Wesson, and many more! Love my Colt 1911 in .38 super. It is imported to the USA bu European American Arms (EAA) and is called the EAA Witness by the importer. In 1928, The Texas Bankers Association gave rewards to officers that set up certain petty criminals to be killed so that corrupt police officers could collect the rewards and pay finders fees. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. I know this will sound funny but about the only time I ever even think about the .38 Super is when happening to catch re-reuns of Nash Bridges. I have had the itch for a cap & ball revolver and I can't even find those (or at least not the one's I'm lookin for). The .45 SAA Colt was a mainstay until John Browning completed his 1911 project. I just dont see the appeal. 1911forum is your friend. Working primarily along the South Texas border, Hamer became known as an expert shot. Stevenson was elected to a full term in 1942, winning the Democratic primary with 69% and being unopposed in the general election. I agree the .38 Super is a fine round in the FWC but I would definitely like to try the standard rounds as well. After that the reputation of the weapon (and my dad) seemed to quiet things down nicely. Their deaths ended a legendary Depression-era crime spree that spanned the central U.S. and included holdups of more than a dozen banks and scores of small shops and gas stations. Shot it and fell in love with it. The M1911 Pistols Organization Forums Site Help; Remember Me? Two of these 22 round magazine equipped death machines were confiscated in a raid on John Dillingers apartment in St. Paul in April of 1933. and quality ammo. Finally, after the last batch of rounds, which I paid extra attention to the details, still had an alarmingly high rejection rate, I finally said I had enough and sold it for a 10mm. M. T. Gonzaullas, 1921 Thompson Sub-Machine Gun, Ranger H. Purvis, 1950 Colt .38 Super, Ranger Glenn Elliott, 1857 Manhattan Firearms Co. "Navy" Revolver, Capt. One is the Colt Competition 1911, one is the Taurus PT and the third one is an EAA Witness, which holds 17 + 1 rounds. It is not carried everywhere but it is easier to get than some calibers like the .50 ae. At about 9:15 AM just after the thundering torrent of lead subsided, Frank Hamer, Sr. approached the 1934 Ford V8 with his 1911 style .38 Super drawn. A 6 1/2 inch gun would have been difficult to use. Ive been around Rangers, guns, and popping primers, and they all can shoot. The polished blued finish is accented by a bordered golden rampant colt, Texas flag, and vine and leaf engravings, pairing a timeless elegance with . I fit a Super 38 barrel to it and a 1lb. The 38 super left a pretty gaping hole in the back of the third book. This 9mm Full Size Pistol offers the same innovation and versatility as the U.S. Army's new M17 in a civilian version. You cant beat going online to find a gun that youre looking for, and I can just about guarantee that youd find 38 Supers on GunBroker, to name just one place. Would even use as a carry gun. As an Old School (Since early 90s) competitive shooter / reloader, and ER/ICU MD, Ive been a fan of ol .38 Super. Colt .38 Super sn 44602 - shipped August 22,1947 to Peden Iron & Steel Company, Houston, Texas in a 50 gun shipment. I have heard all the bull about the 9mm. The Wilson Combat Texas Ranger Professional on Ranger Trace McDonalds belt works, as our range outing proved. Ships from Tallahassee, FL, United States. Out of stock View Details . "TEXAS RANGER" is on the left side of the barrel. I think the fact that during the 60s 38 Super kinda faded and like I said the ammo wasnt really easy to get. Was an excellent firearm but I let it wiggle its way out of my collection and into one of my buddys who had become obsessed about acquiring it till he offered a deal that I couldnt pass up. If you are a 1911 fan, after you fire the Super 38, you will not go back to .45 ACP. Regarding Bobs message from about an hour and a half ago, I dont think you should even bother with shopping around, especially for a caliber you wont find everywhere, like you would a 9mm or .45 ACP. Colt was discontinuing the long-serving .38 ACP automatic and wished to introduce a mid bore to replace it. When asked by one of the rioters whether he would surrender the prisoner, Hamer replied,Any time you feel lucky come on, but when you start up the stairway once more, there is going to be many funerals in Sherman. This quieted the crowd for twenty or thirty minutes according to Hamers official statement. The Rangers were dealing with arms smuggling, bandits and bootleggers along the Mexican border. Campfire Ranger. On April 21, 1906, Hamer enlisted as a Texas Ranger. It has been completely revamped and updated for accuracy and clarity. I jumped in and took one shot just to see how the Professional handled. The .45 SAA Colt was a mainstay until John Browning completed his 1911 project. I presently shot mostly bullseye. Have shot it in bullseye competition and USPSA. We reserve the right to edit as appropriate, delete profane, harassing, abusive and spam comments or posts, and block repeat offenders. Many of the accusations and dirty tricks that Johnson displayed have become standard protocol for modern day Democrats. His lawyers argued about strategy for hours and Johnson finally turned to Abe Fortas who happened to be in nearby Dallas on business. That is, you cant have a gun which is chambered for any cartridge which has been used by any military anywhere at any time (Im sure theres an exception for 12 gauge shotguns and rimfires). At the time i knew nothing about guns At all. Thanks for your article, it helped shed some light on the history, i might try to pick up another 1911 in that caliber. The answer would be yes. Clean burning I shoot 45s more than anything else but sometimes wish I had purchased a SUPER back in the day. Those arent 45s. Great 3 cartridge pistol for defense or hunting. The Colt .38-caliber Detectives Special revolver, which was recovered from Parkers body by Texas Ranger Capt. Well, my grouping sucked. At present, my favorite .38 Super is a Para Ordnance 1911. Traces Professional has everything to make it distinctly his own. . Where in AZ do you live? I find very few people casually shoot the Super. Caliber: .38 Colt Special Overall condition as seen in photos. Same ballistics as .357 mag. today it is in the Texas Ranger Hall of Fame and Museum in Waco. Item Number: O1911C-SS38-DHM. I shoot the .38 Super from a couple of Tanfoglios. 100 Texas Ranger Trail Waco, TX 76706 (254) 750-8631 [email protected] 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Last guest admitted at 4:30 p.m. Interstate 35 at Southbound (from Dallas) Exit 335C or Northbound (from Austin) Exit 334B in It was the only pistol chambered for .38 Super that I ever shot until I got one. Ive shot it a few times but have semi-retired the gun because of age and value but its still a good shooter. The Colt Walker, sometimes known as . . I usually load to USPSA Major PF using .38 Super Comp brass. I bought a gun to fit my mistake,and dont regret it ,shoots dead accurate and hardly any recoil. They took the opportunity to upgrade the performance of the .38 ACP. His training, natural abilities and the Wilson were enough for a good start in the sport. with an extra barrel in 9mm. Frank Hamer, had its serial numbers obliterated in the heyday of Bonnie and Clyde's reign of terror, prompting Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) officials to issue a new number to make the handgun legal. I recently came across a 1929 Super .38 that also came from Texas. Hamer used a customized .35 Remington Model 8 semiautomatic rifle with a special-order 15-round magazine. Lastly, a coated Speed Chute mag well was added to smooth-out reloads. I bought this pistol off a table at a small gun show in Custer, WA. Every soldier, wanted one. He slept under his horse drawn wagon in bad weather and studied accounting alone by the light of campfires often with snow and rain falling around him. Texas Rangers are an independent lotalways have beenperhaps from that time alone riding horseback across the vast expanse of Texas. SIG Sauer offers the V-Crown hollow point at about 1,210 fps. This is simply because the original before the +P designation was a development of the .38 ACP. With right loads, all of the above, print 1.25 2 @ 25 yds, (Ransom rest).Just my two cents. Hamer and Stevenson were both tall with big shoulders and carried themselves in a way that stated they meant business. A question that comes up around gun shops is, Who still uses the .38 Super, if anyone? I am one of the users of this fine cartridge, and while I appreciate the grand old .38 Super, or Super .38 as it is variously called, it is probably not a caliber I recommend for most shooters. This is a neat cowboy revolver from Europe! And an interesting thing that I hope is pure BS was that my FFL dealer told me when I got the .38 Super that buying it was going to cause the ATFE to keep a close eye on me because its such a popular gun south of the border, used by the drug cartels, and since I live in Arizona, the ATFE folks would be watching me, as though I was gun dealer or drug runner, I guess! After shooting it, I wanted a smaller grouping and purchased a Bar-Sto barrel and bushing, when they were still located in Southern California. (AP file). Im glad for that because todays Texas Rangers, just like those hard men who came before, still work in harms way. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. The .38 ACP fired a 130-grain bullet at 1,100 fps. Gun #: 999474294. My next project is an AMT Back Up in 40 S&W that I recently converted to 357 Sig and would like also make into 38 Super if I could find a barrel. Legal Statement. Do you still have the ammo? While the first Wilson Combat pistol that started his journey to Wilson-Combat Rangers pistols was a CQB, Trace McDonald chose a built-to-order Professional Model. GA Sales: 62. I accidentally bought 38 super rounds through the mail and realized my mistake. The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! Sheriff D. S. Barker recommended Hamer for a position with the Texas Rangers. By doing so, Johnsons legal team got the case in front of Associate Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black. Barrel is marked "Texas Ranger". His reputation as a Texas Ranger would have made him a legend even if he had not apprehended Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker in Louisiana. I have 40 years of experience handloading, so its not because Im a noob. Eugene Cosgrove was a pioneer in the New Mexico territory and operated the E. Cosgrove Hardware Store in Silver City. COLT PYTHON .357 MAG 6" 6RD STS . All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. Coke Stevenson to the Texas State Bank in Alice, county seat of Jim Wells County in South Texas. Burley Auction Group - TEXAS RANGER COLLECTION/ESTATE AUCTION - TEXAS RANGER COLLECTION/ESTATE AUCTION - New Braunfels, . To Chris. Couple tips / strong suggestions: It filled the gap between the .45 Colt and the .38 Special. . Your gun and its caliber are a tool to be used for sport shooting, hunting, and self-defense. A round in Barrows left temple laid him out dead. Only change was an 18 lb. But when you are not much from arms length of a life and death situation I suggest a 45acp in 180 xtp hollow point. The Para-Ordnance is an eye-catching pistol that has proven completely reliable, reasonably accurate, and a great deal of fun. Enjoy your new .38 Super! 3 Revolver, 1907 Winchester Rifle, Ranger George Chapman, 1950 Smith & Wesson Chiefs Special, Sgt. Texas Rangers are an independent lotalways have beenperhaps from that time alone riding horseback across the vast expanse of Texas. The March, 1992 issue of Guns and Ammos HANDGUNS FOR SPORT AND DEFENSE magazine contains an interview with Frank Hamer Jr. who confirmed that his fathers Colt was a .38 Super. The Colt Monitor: A Rare Improved BAR DPS Texas Rangers (1935-present) Handguns 1950 Colt .38 Super, Ranger Glenn Elliott Colt Commander Model Longarms 2006 Bushmaster M4 Rifle 2011 LaRue .308 Rifle Other firearms of interest, either not in the museum collection or not on display. The .38 Super was introduced in the 1911 handgun in 1929 to arm peace officers with a hard-hitting handgun that offered good penetration against the new breed of mechanized thug. It is possible to handload a 115-grain bullet to over 1,400 fps and a 124-grain JHP to a solid 1,350 fps. One is a Taurus and the other is a Colt. Keep checking back to browse our constantly changing inventory of collectible Colt guns and Colt revolvers for sale or see a full list of our new arrivals. Note that I give the same respect to the 357sig as the 38 super, both available in concealed carry frame size. Bill Wilson and Trace understood this, and Wilson had a simple solution: Offer each Ranger any 1911 Wilson Combat made, modified as they requested, but with special Texas Ranger markings. I fitted a .38 Super barrel and stronger spring. The Model 8 was one of at least two Model 8s used in the ambush. Okay, here are the generals I think people will say about the Super: its an accurate, well developed round with an extensive commercial and handload database. All fitted with the best barrels money can buy manufacture by Fred Kart. In her first term as governor of Texas, Gov. Hammer carried his Triplelock in a shoulder holster. Captain Frank Hamer, two other rangers and a police sergeant escorted Hughes to trial where a crowd packed the entire area of the courthouse. Texas became a proving ground and nearly the only market for Colt's revolutionary product. The lawyers got to look at the records just long enough to make notes and it soon became apparent that Lyndon Johnson had engaged in a massive election fraud that was unprecedented even by the standards then prevalent in Texas where ranchers and political bosses were able to deliver blocs of voters to candidates willing to pay the highest price. The entire paternal side of my family witnessed Frank Hamer shooting one of the rioters in Sherman. The nemesis of Bonnie and Clyde packed an M1911 but it was a .38 Super. For nay sayers, look at the ballistics compared to a 9mm or .38 Special and you will understand. Git!, he admonished and then, Fall back!. It features straight-to-the-rear trigger compression, a low bore axis, a grip that fits most hands well, and excellent speed into action. Barrow, Parker and associate Jimmy Mullens engineered the Eastham prison farm escape and freed Raymond Hamilton, Henry Methvin, Hilton Bybee and Joe Palme. COLT 1911 TEXAS RANGER 38 SUPER USED GUN INV 219948 Description: Colt 1911 Texas Ranger commemorative chambered in .38 Super with a 4 1/4 inch barrel bright bore and good grooves with a display case and Texas Ranger Medallion. Both use the same Wilson An old timer gave me several boxes of ammo and I reload as well but it can be hard to find. Ted Kennedy be damned. Shortly thereafter, many Rangers adopted the platform, first in .45 Auto, later in the .38 Super. I liked it so much I bought the other three calibers when released. Played by Faye Dunaway in the 1967 classic film Bonnie and Clyde, Parker was glamorized as a chain-smoking, gun-toting gangster gal even though historians doubt that she played a key role in the gang. The .38-caliber revolver taped to Bonnie Parkers inner thigh when she and Clyde Barrow were killed by a Texas posse in 1934 has been made federally compliant and will be auctioned later this week. In 1948, Hamer accompanied Gov. Judge Carter stopped the trial and planned a change of venue. First, a frame handling eight-round Wilson magazines, for a nine-shot capacity, and one on which you can always get all your fingers. What you end up with is a 10 shot stiff 9mm or a 10 shot 357 Magnum+P and after dropping 2 deer with the 923 I can attest to its effectiveness. *Last, but not the least: CDNN Sports (TX), used to sell genuine, ramped / supported SIG .38 Super bbls for 1.911. The .38 Super is more powerful than the 9mm Luger and only a little, if any, more difficult to handle. Veteran Deputy Bob Alcorn had chugged away with his hefty Browning Automatic Rifle and ripped some respectable holes all the way through the car. His trial practice in Texas made him one of the greatest trial lawyers ever to try a case in a state known for famous trial lawyers. Is it good for self-defense? I took it to a local range to shoot it and instantly fell in love. Since then I now buy nothing but 38 super mags for both the 9mm/38 Supers, and have never had any feeding issues in the 9mm with either 115 or 124 gr. Frank Hamer was born in Fairview, Wilson County, Texas. I purchased a Colt Commander .38 Super in 1959 from Abercrombie & Fitch in San Francisco for $45.00. The Combat Commander 45 ACP pistol on the right includes a nickel engraved finish and custom silver grips. I agree that the round can stand its own with the 9 and .45. Started reloading rounds as store bought ones were not to my liking. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. I had long suspected that this Colt was not a .45 but one of the then new .38 Supers and I had three reasons for believing this. Colt built military versions of the pistol, along with a civilian model and various target models. If you have a question about an item, please call or e-mail for more information before placing your order. I have a personal love for both rounds, and if you were to give me a modern double action handgun chambered in either one, Id probably buy one in a heartbeat. Johnson went on to take the Senate seat that he stole from Stevenson and Stevenson retired to Junction, Texas. [which also headspaces on the case mouth like the 38 soup, and probably will have the same issues for me, but I long for a new reloading challenge]. Regular Price. The question is this. In 1839, the Republic of Texas ordered 180 of the .36-caliber Holster model revolvers for the Texas Navy, but most significant were the revolvers issued to the early Texas Rangers. Of course the .38 Super Auto is still in use. The 38 special penetrated around 1/4 inch into the second book. Hamer retained a Special Ranger commission after retirement and he put it to good use. I bought a RIA 1911 in 38 Super a couple of years ago, always been fascinated by the round that gives you 357 Magnum ballistics in a 1911 platform. One of rioters ran up to cut a fire hose with an axe. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. Colt Officers Model "King Super Target" .38 Spl PRICE DROP. We used to do some long-range shooting with handguns when I was in college. I mailed 9mm barrel to Gun Smith who for $44.50 he then reamed the barrel to 923. Also Colt makes a nicely accurate full size Competition Model. Kimber Custom Shop made only 260 Stainless Gold Match SE II in .38 Super in 2001. Its used most commonly in competition teamed with a compensated 1911 (opinion). Like other Hamer biographers, Boesseneker confirms the famed ranger's favorite sidearm was a Colt Single Action Army .45 with a 4-3/4-inch barrel and Type C (almost full coverage) engraving, which Hamer nicknamed "Old Lucky." A few years ago, his SAA revolver sold at auction for $165,000. The trigger pull was a crisp 4-1/2 pounds, with very little take up or over-travel. , This is a great history of a very great man fighting bad men including LBJ and the criminal democratic party, Your email address will not be published. Long-range practical shooting is possible with the 1911/.38 Super format. The lynching of a black prisoner in Sherman started when George Hughes, a farm hand, admitted to raping a white woman.

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