Why is it that now its like Im supposed to have wronged you?! And throughout the novel, Manga and Anime she is not the type of person to take things lying down and is a fierce Cultivator who knows how to put those who she deems . Status He locks his new martial brother out of their room and threatens to send dogs after him, prompting Wei Wuxian to flee. [5], After Jin Zixuan insults Jiang Yanli and expresses his dissatisfaction with his engagement to her, Jiang Cheng intends to punch him. Once he is convinced they are telling the truth, he allowed them to speak to the rest of the cultivators present. "Just go pee and pass out for a few hours so we can make some progress!" "Master Wei is feeling impatient," Wen Ning commented with enough amusement in his voice that he'd be laughing at him if he were still alive. Bait-and-Switch: When Jiang Fengmian first appeared, the first thing he did was firmly tell Wei Wuxian to kneel properly (as part of his punishment for punching Jin Zixuan), and he gave Jiang Cheng a stern look when the latter protested to his suggestion to dissolve Jiang Yanli's engagement. Jiang Cheng is unconcerned with dark technique so long as the user kills their shared enemies. Point is, I think, he knew the other dudes he was torturing were not WWX, so he just used them as dummies for his little anger problems, and when he saw WWX resurrected and shameless ofc he just wanted to release his anger, that's why he patted him gently on the back with Zidian. [11], When Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian return that night, they find the entire clan massacred, including Jiang Fengmian and Yu Ziyuan. Whether he died from his army or suicide or Jiang cheng the real question is are they going to show how he died cause we all wanna know and so far in each novel and series are different endings now the anime and dongua how will wei ying die in those and will they even show us in the anime. They also cut quite alot of scenes / dialogue from the book. In the novel, he gets chased by Fairy while looking for Jin Ling to fix the curse, which is how he runs into not only . Press J to jump to the feed. He cares for Wei Ying genuinely if you guys read the novel. before (or even as he was) dying he destroyed the amulet. Sure they won't be like before. She could, with time, especially once JZX takes over but that;s time JC doesn't have. I think if theres anyone JC actually hates, its himself and that again is because of his parents. And finally, WWX dies in the Burial Mound siege. Also, the sudden changes in dynamic between him and lanzhan is unconvincing. This is what wei wuxian meant when he said a soul that no longer wants to be in this world. [16], On the fourth day, he and Lan Wangji finally catch Wen Chao and Wen Zhuliu in a courier station. 185 cm But he could do nothing but listen. Its confusing because the animation and drama do not seem to follow the novel strictly. Jiang Cheng and Lan Wangji navigate life after Wei Wuxian's death and are forced together by fate (Nie Huaisang) before choosing to stay by each other's side. Height So it's definitely that he believed WWX is still somewhere out there and secretly misses his bro. [22], When Jiang Yanli gives birth to Jin Ling, Jiang Cheng and Jin Zixuan plan an elaborate seven-day and thirty-day celebration, the latter to which Wei Wuxian is also invited. He reveals that he had been devastated when Wei Wuxian left the Yunmeng Jiang Clan and broken his promise to be the Twin Prides of Yunmeng with him. He uses Zidian in an attempt to expel Wei Wuxian's soul, though the technique fails because Wei Wuxian's soul has not actually possessed Mo Xuanyu's body. He picked up Chenqing and refused to give it to JGY in exchange of Suibian because he knew that WWX would look for the dizi not the sword. I actually have the same question as to how he died. But his arm was injured and perhaps it was supposed to mean that WWX was afraid LWJ would also be harmed? He himself, after all these years, didn't know what he want. I dont think Jiang Cheng hates Wei Wu Xian - when he found out about the truth behind Wei Wu Xian cultivating the demonic path, he didnt know what to feel or how to treat Wei Wu Xian. But I think a lot of people ignore the politics of everything. Yes. I think he rather believed its not over, as much as Lan Zhan. Voice Actor (Chinese) I don't think it is that he did not feel guilty (he feel guilty enough to autodestruct in order to break the stygian seal), but that he cannot accept that guilt because that mean that his decision to protect the Wens is something to regret. But he cannot because he knows it was motivated by good intentions and righteous actions. I don't even need to read ur entire post "he got angrier and angrier" yep. As you all know Madame yu is the former Matriarch of Yungmeng Jiang and the wife of Jiang Fengmian and mother to Jiang Cheng, Jiang Yangli and the adopted mother to Wei Wuxian. He then witnesses Wei Wuxian accidentally reveal his identity by using Suibian, which had sealed itself after his death. climbing up that coastal shelf by Sour_Idealist. [27], Jiang Cheng allows the survivors to return to Lotus Pier to recover their spiritual power, and did not forbid Wei Wuxian from accompanying them. Plus he cleared his name. In retribution, Jin Guangyao reminds Jiang Cheng just how easily he had allowed his jealousy and pride to keep him from protecting Wei Wuxian. While he's waiting for Jiang Cheng, people from Qishan Wen Clan including Wen Chao found him. Currently, the original novel by MXTX ( | M Xing Tng Xi) has been adapted into a donghua, manhua, audio drama and live action! Web Series "[2] However, after Wei Wuxian is brought to live at Lotus Pier around age nine or ten, Jiang Cheng's puppies are sent away due to Wei Wuxian's intense fear of dogs. 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Wen Ning serves as a representation of a force of good in life, and in death became a puppet to a friend & master who abused his reanimated body. This leaves me with the question about how did Wei Wuxian actually die? Jiang Cheng By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. As Wei Wuxian waits on the foot of the mountain, he is ambushed by the Wen sect and stabbed through the chest by Wen Chao's sword. I didn't feel it was "bad writting" or disappointing. That is, ironically, what Madam Yu meant all this time but due to her own personal issues with JFM it gets lot in the bullshit. Am I not supposed to hate you? [32], Jiang Cheng then harshly tells Jin Ling not to come back if he fails to capture the soul-consuming beast. Hes lost everything at the hands of his friends and had nothing left to protect. To his dismay, Yu Ziyuan orders the doors closed. But once he was done talking to Lan Qiren, his . I think JC stabs the rock out of frustration, but it started to dislodge a piece. He is interrupted, however, by Jin Ling, who lies about seeing Wen Ning. I don't know what your specific background is, but I think Americans tend to be more expressive with both positive and negative emotions. jiangcheng, mdzs, weiying. The three often play and catch fish. [19], Jiang Cheng's insecurities grow after the Sunshot Campaign, as people suggest that the Yunmeng Jiang Clan has only survived because of Wei Wuxian, rather than Jiang Cheng. He didnt realize how lan zhan felt or maybe he would have hung on. After finding everything out its clear he wouldnt have wanted to fight anymore because he had nothing left to fight for and he only ever fought for others anyway, never himself, yet everyone he knew or would fight for turned against him. Both leave the duel cursing each other. Finally, Jiang Cheng saw the lights of Lotus Pier. He stabs Wei Wuxian, and Wei Wuxian commands Wen Ning to break one of his arms. Wei Wuxian brings Jiang Cheng to Yiling to meet Baoshan Sanren, ordering him to keep his blindfold on at all times and introduce himself as the son of Cangse Sanren. He and Wei Wuxian then force Wen Chao to bow in the direction of Lotus Pier before torturing him to death. "Wei Wuxian, what are you trying to do?" "That's kind of you, Clan Leader Jin, but I won't sit. Names But after he met Lan Zhan again, Lan Zhan stuck to him like glue and gave him hope again. Am I not supposed to hate you? And the way he's told about the golden core is the most cruel way you can possibly tell someone about it: he's publicly humiliated and it's used as a weapon to tell him that he's worthless and stupid. Also I am not sure how "dead" Wei Wuxian was during those 13 years? But the most compelling for it to be suicide is that Wei wuxian himself made it clear to Xue Yang that a soul who has no desire to be in this world cannot be summoned back. In the live action, it looked like LWJ might get hurt because JC couldn't bring it upon himself to actually stab and end WWX. thats why they turned on him 3. I can't point Sandu at that old friend anymore. Wei Wuxian is the youngest in the family, wi. [25] Accordingly, Jiang Cheng's and Jin Guangshan's clans fight the most in the battle,[26] during which cultivators also slaughter the the Qishan Wen Clan remnants under Wei Wuxian's protection. I was under the impression that Wei Wuxian never really blame Jiang Wanjin for anything he did to him specifically, but he was enraged when the other talk bad about the Wens he was protecting or Lan WangJi. He insists that his father does not like him or think he will be a good clan leader. IMO, i agree that Wei Ying committed suicide. In my interpretation, Wei Ying realised that if he didn't let him go, Lan Zhan would fall as well so with all his strength he threw Lan Zhan's arm up and let himself fall to save him. [45], Jiang Cheng then turns his anger towards Jin Guangyao, especially after Jin Guangyao admits he had sent Jin Zixuan to the confrontation on Qiongqi Path, although Jin Guangyao maintains that he had not intended for Wei Wuxian to kill Jin Zixuan. Although he does acknowledge his fault in everything, it's kind of glossed over and it seems like most of the fandom chooses to ignore it. Wei Ying (, Wi Yng), courtesy name Wei Wuxian (, Wi Wxin) is the founder of Demonic Cultivation and a former disciple of the Yunmeng Jiang Clan. Clan After certain events, even though he did originally want to keep to hating Wei Wu Xian and blaming him for everything - when the big bad appeared and more things were revealed, Jiang Cheng tried to shift the blame to said villain. Press J to jump to the feed. [13], After the death of Jin Guangyao, Jiang Cheng takes Zidian to Golden Carp Tower to ensure that Jin Ling will inherit the position as clan leader of the Lanling Jin Clan. :(. September 22, 2018 35m. Currently, the original novel by MXTX ( | M Xing Tng Xi) has been adapted into a donghua, manhua, audio drama and live action! Oh boy can I redirect you to the Jiang Cheng character study thread? About her political standing, Jiang Yanli marries into the position of Jin-Furen, wouldn't she have the same amount of authority as Madam Yu or Madam Jin? As a skilled doctor, Wen Qing treats Jiang Cheng but requests that they leave quickly, lest she fall under suspicion. Jiang Cheng runs up to him. And hes a clown I think one of the reasons he hates wwx that he always wanted to find someone to put all the blame and sadness on, JC can't hate WWX, even he himself said "shouldn't I hate you, can't I hate you?". in the novel and donghua, wwx destroyed the stygian seal just before he died, the seal that held control over the corpses. [28], After Wei Wuxians death, Jiang Cheng develops a deep hatred of all who practice Demonic Cultivation. During the "Poisons" arc, Jiang Cheng is 17. It makes me think that he wanted to die and to stay dead. I feel like in simpler terms, he hates that he can't hate wwx, and he feels guilty that he can't love him either. The two get off to a rocky start, as Wei Wuxian is terrified of dogs, and Jiang Cheng is forced to get rid of his pets for his new brother. But he will, some day, learn to love his brother nearly like before. [44], Jiang Cheng verbally lashes out at Wei Wuxian, prompting Lan Wangji to warn him to "spare some virtue. To kill Wei Wuxian because of anger, Wen Chao does the worst thing that he ever does to anyone. Jin Ling, however, returned the weapon and fought the corpses with Suihua, despite Jiang Cheng's frantic worry for his safety. Japan is dubbing it and they're a lot less censored in their anime content but other than the opening and ending and melodies I don't think they reanimated it to make it less censored. [48], After the death of Su She renders Nie Mingjue even more dangerous, Jiang Cheng realizes that Wei Wuxian is the only one who can save them. Why? In the second part, they are adults, and they don't realize that they may be in danger (Jin GuangYao and the Jin sect in general is much more insidious than the Wen sect). The Author knows that Jian Cheng will be detested. They've both had to deal with losing literally everything with the added weight of their entire sects on their shoulders. Jiang Cheng: the backstory. When his arguing parents leave, Jiang Cheng attempts to leave too, but Wei Wuxian insists on speaking with him. Although Jiang Cheng often lectures Wei Wuxian for his provocative behavior in the hopes of curbing his wild antics, his efforts are typically in vain. Jiang Cheng hurries back to Yunmeng on foot, and he and Jiang Fengmian return to save them seven days later. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. [4], Jiang Cheng participates in the investigation of the Waterborne Abyss in Caiyi Town. Yeah actually you got a point I mean if i hated someone for doing something for 13 years then i knew he didnt do it, itd still be hard for me to be normal toward them again. Wen Qing poses as Baoshan Sanren, and Wen Ning assists his sister as she transfers Wei Wuxian's golden core into Jiang Cheng. November 5 The spiritually weak Wei Wuxian was tortured and thrown into the Burial Mounds by Wen Chao of Qishan Wen Sect, from where he returned . I was like "People dont work like that!". In there, Wei Wuxian was killed by Jiang Cheng in the end of the cliff comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment chriswillar . Furthermore, at the start of the book, he did mention that he existed as a ghost quietly for 13 years before he was summoned. [44], Jin Guangyao then feigns an attack against Wei Wuxian. He hates himself for not living up to what his mother wanted him to be what he thinks his father wanted, he hates himself for not being able to be what WWX represents. jiangfengmian; jinsect; jiangcheng +14 more # 13. . But no Jiang Cheng doesn't care about that, he just wants all the Wens dead because of the actions of two people. He uses his swimming skills to find a hole at the bottom of the pool that they can escape through and helps guide those who cannot swim out of the cave. Welcome to r/MoDaZuShi! Unable to sleep their first night, Wei Wuxian slips away from the Cloud Recesses to purchase the renowned wine Emperor's Smile. I'm glad someone brought these things up. (Not sure if it was mentioned in the live action that the fight was fake). JC understands that objectivly, he should hate WWX for what he did to him. [1], Afraid his father will find out and dislike him even more, Jiang Cheng recruits his elder sister Jiang Yanli to find Wei Wuxian. Jiang Cheng is so devastated, he fails to realize what has happened at first, as the enraged Wei Wuxian then pressed the two halves of the Yin Tiger Tally together, commencing battle that becomes a bloodbath. Episode 1 MDZS Q So the way he behaves at the end, saying "can't I hate you" and "why are you so awesome", etc is a direct result of (a) spending 13 years thinking WWX CHOSE to keep using demonic cultivation for fun and profit until it killed JZX, JYL, thousands of cultivators and then WWX himself, and trying to hate him for that, and (b) he thinks of the core transfer the way Wen Ning talks about it: as WWX being so superior to him and as proof that JC is a clown and worthless. I got different feelings about those things in the different media adaptations. Jiang Yanli also makes lotus root pork ribs soup for Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian. Yunmeng Jiang Obviously Madame Yu is a huge contributor of friction - what with physically dragging Jiang Cheng between her and According to the Author's Weibo, Jiang Cheng also notices that Wei Wuxian takes on a flirtatious tone when speaking with Lan Wangji, in contrast to Wei Wuxian's tone with him. 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I assume is to save time as it is not possible to cover the whole book in 35 episodes (including season 3, the final season). [44], Jin Ling runs away from Lotus Pier to seek Wei Wuxian, and Jiang Cheng follows to seek his nephew. Jiang Cheng fights Wei Wuxian, insisting on recovering his parents' bodies, before choking Wei Wuxian and screaming to know why he had protected Lan Wangji and Jin Zixuan in the cave. He finds it creepy. When Wei Wuxian (Xiao Zhan) is adopted by Jiang Fengmian (Lu Jiangmin), Jiang Cheng becomes Wei Wuxian's new brother. You'll forgive me if I feel, from JC's pov, he has a lot of reasons to hate WWX. Wei Ying states this repeatedly to.someone lol Soooo if he did indeed lose the will to live and took measures to ensure his death, or was just satisfied with being dead, how was he summoned back? The truth is more like whole books being brought up from their hiding . at the time Wen Ning left thinking to WWX and attacked everyone his master perceived as a threat. Audio Drama (JP) Known as the Yiling Patriarch (, Ylng Loz), Wei Wuxian died in the First Siege of the Burial Mounds thirteen years prior to the start of the Novel. WWX thinks if LWJ continues to hold on, they will both fall so he uses that moment to rip his arm out of LWJ's grip.
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